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State in procedural languages has more to do with side effects than nice syntax for it. This article has a nice description of how why explicit state is good in procedural languages sometimes: http://prog21.dadgum.com/3.html

lisp can do side effects. as i demonstrated. what's the problem?

"... some people prefer not to commingle the functional, lambda-calculus part of a language with the parts that do side effects. It seems they believe in the separation of Church and state." --Guy Steele

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