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I'm excited about lots of research that is breaking down the 'separate mind & body' delusion that seems to have gripped medicine for the last couple of hundred years. Doctors could perhaps do more to embrace the scientific method, an inability to measure something is not proof it does not exist.

There also seems to be institutional resentment of any patient that does not respond to a prescribed treatment, as if it was a personal failure to respond in the way they imagined. I have direct experience of the treatment of patients, as empressplay puts it, there are no clean hands.

One particularly shocking consultant came up with a treatment plan, when I enquired whether we would see them again to evaluate the outcome he was quite specific that it was not of interest, as the 'expert' there was nothing more to learn. I patronised the chap by outlining in a step by step manner how in my industry we integrate a program of continuous review in order to determine the effectiveness of the solutions we implement, but no, his belief was so strongly held, the actual experience of the patient was of no interest.

Doctors could perhaps do more to embrace the scientific method, an inability to measure something is not proof it does not exist.

This is contradictory. Perhaps you just mean doctors should be more open minded?

Not contradictory. But yes, for some definitions of the scientific method, open-mindness is a different concept that does not take part in it. I'd just like to point that those definitions do not work. Being open minded is a requirement for creating good science, as much as checking one's hypothesis with experiments.

About that "contradiction" word, do not confuse "inability to measure something" with "measuring something and detecting it's not there". Those are too completely different situations, yet many people act like they were the same.

About that "contradiction" word, do not confuse "inability to measure something" with "measuring something and detecting it's not there". Those are too completely different situations, yet many people act like they were the same.

I'm reminded of Semmelweis who figured out an empirical germ theory and beat Pasteur to it by about a decade. Thanks to doctors who "knew" better, he ended up dying in disgrace.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

That's not to say I'm anti-doctor, anti-medicine or anything like that. But I am anti-arrogance, especially when people's lives might hang in the balance.

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