This constant analysis of how Women are different than Men, whilst refusing to accept that they actually are different for reasons beyond anyones control, is just getting boring IMHO.
"There are no straight men in fashion. News at 11. This constant analysis of how Women are different than Men, whilst refusing to accept that they actually are different for reasons beyond anyones control, is just getting boring IMHO."
What makes you so sure that the reason that straight men avoid fashion is innate to their sex?
Women and men might be differently situated in our society for reasons beyond anyone's control, but there certainly seem to be some reasons that are manufactured. The real question is, why does your opinion on the matter get to be the definitive one?
Which actually isn't true. The KDE project is the only large project I've been up close and personal with, which had a small number of female developers relative to the whole, but at one point virtually every other sub-project was headed up by women, including: KDE e.V. (financial, legal), documentation, usability, artwork and translation.
Interesting to note that you didn't list software development. I think that's the biggest complaint about the "lack of women in open source" -- more related to the lack of female developers than anything else.
I was in a software engineering class, and we divided into 4 groups, one of which was the front-end stuff. We had 4 leaders, and the one female leader chose to lead the front-end group. Then all of the females in the class grouped under the female manager.
How many people are interested in doing something where they must "get over" discrimination? Most women who stay in the field are ones are really excited about it, naturally very good at it or very lucky not to run into idiots early on -- usually all three. That weeds out a lot of talent and a lot of people who would be otherwise interested.
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There are no straight men in fashion. News at 11.
This constant analysis of how Women are different than Men, whilst refusing to accept that they actually are different for reasons beyond anyones control, is just getting boring IMHO.
"There are no straight men in fashion. News at 11. This constant analysis of how Women are different than Men, whilst refusing to accept that they actually are different for reasons beyond anyones control, is just getting boring IMHO."
What makes you so sure that the reason that straight men avoid fashion is innate to their sex?
Women and men might be differently situated in our society for reasons beyond anyone's control, but there certainly seem to be some reasons that are manufactured. The real question is, why does your opinion on the matter get to be the definitive one?
Which actually isn't true. The KDE project is the only large project I've been up close and personal with, which had a small number of female developers relative to the whole, but at one point virtually every other sub-project was headed up by women, including: KDE e.V. (financial, legal), documentation, usability, artwork and translation.
Interesting to note that you didn't list software development. I think that's the biggest complaint about the "lack of women in open source" -- more related to the lack of female developers than anything else.
I was in a software engineering class, and we divided into 4 groups, one of which was the front-end stuff. We had 4 leaders, and the one female leader chose to lead the front-end group. Then all of the females in the class grouped under the female manager.
The question is, are there no women because they have problems getting into it because of male domination or are they in general just not interested?
For a lot of the women I know, it's lack of interest. If they're really good, they learn to get over the chauvinism and laugh it off. ;)
How many people are interested in doing something where they must "get over" discrimination? Most women who stay in the field are ones are really excited about it, naturally very good at it or very lucky not to run into idiots early on -- usually all three. That weeds out a lot of talent and a lot of people who would be otherwise interested.