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I like your suggestions. I have tried and quickly abandoned so many of these new dime a dozen frameworks. They claim to work like magic, but, usually right off the bat, with the "hello world" example, I find myself thinking, "Why do I have to do that every time? Shouldn't it do that for me?"

Also, there are the frameworks where you have to install every package manager and library (which I've never heard of) under the sun and then follow instructions like "Just jimify Belch in your Crandal project..."

Yeah, I don't mean "jimifying Belch" would be necessarily bad, as long it would be really making a difference. More often than not it's however just boilerplate - understandable in a startup project for lack of resources, but certainly not something to see in a framework claiming to be "stable".

True. It's just kind of an idiosyncrasy I've noticed among these "easy, magic" frameworks. Those things do usually get ironed out, but they are a barrier and probably something that could be easily thrown into an install script.

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