Quake in 13 Kilobytes (2021)js13kgames.com 172 pointsmortenjorck2 months ago23 commentsSaveHideCopy link On HNComments−boricj2moThe making of is well worth a read: https://phoboslab.org/log/2021/09/q1k3-making-of−fiatpandas2moLove the ingenuity of the texture DSL. So much variety can be packed into a small footprint.−djmips2moIn praise of a good editor.−andai2moEpic. That's super cool. That dog thing is very cute though, I felt bad.js13k is super cool. Here is my favorite game from there: https://js13kgames.com/2022/games/infernal-throneThere was also some kind of java4k thing back in the day. Notch did a bunch of those:https://web.archive.org/web/20100218133531/http://www.mojang...−kristianp2moInteresting insight into Notch's creativity before Minecraft was released, although a public alpha was released beforehand in 2009.Kind of a shame that Java applet support was removed from browsers. Obviously the security problems made it too much work to maintain.−ChrisArchitect2moSome previous discussions:2024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=405586072021 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28520221−ChrisArchitect2moRelated this week:CSSQuakehttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48608223−ck22mothe Wolfenstein3D-like game in only a few hundred bytes WITH SOUND might be even more impressive even though it's like exploits all the way downoddly can't find a link to it at the moment−M4v3R2moNot sure if this is what you were thinking about, but .kkrieger was 96 kB and looked very impressive when it was released: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12036−ck22mowell there have been micro attempts over the yearslike this is 512 bytes (half a K)https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=83795but the one I am thinking about had textured walls and soundit used some insane levels of packing and exploits to render−no-name-here2moDoes it work on mobile?Game video: https://youtu.be/tX8340GV87U?t=30−maxlin2moVery nice! Lack of pathfinding hardly made itself visible, in intense combat I at first assumed they did have some kind of pathfinding−lopis2moI definitely recommend checking out all top games from this competition over the years. Quite a few gems.−butz2moImagine, if someone would start making operating system and its applications that are just kilobytes in size. RAM price crysis would resolve in a day.−0x20cowboy2moThose exist e.g. https://menuetos.net/ it’s just most people dont use them.I agree with you though. If Apple open sourced os9, and the community could get it to run on modern hardware, I would run it.−rightbyte2moInteresting project. A floppy sized OS seems about right, excluding some sort of driver tree.OS preferences seem to boil down to "have someone else made this app work on the system" which makes it very much a network effect issue.And if you use such an OS to boot a bloated Firefox, then there is hardly any point.−heresalexandria2moThis is really remarkable, and frankly more playable than a number of niche ports like this that I've tried - great work!−slavcik2moVery epic stuff−tribal8082movery cool, try it with other games−dmonterocrespo2moGreat job!−syspec2moI read the whole writeup assuming it was LLM assisted, then when I got to the bottom I realized it's from 2021 and was blown away.−3eb7988a16632moDoes this make you question the accuracy of your personal LLM detector?−grg02moBlown away as in he had LLMs before anybody else did?
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The making of is well worth a read: https://phoboslab.org/log/2021/09/q1k3-making-of
Love the ingenuity of the texture DSL. So much variety can be packed into a small footprint.
In praise of a good editor.
Epic. That's super cool. That dog thing is very cute though, I felt bad.
js13k is super cool. Here is my favorite game from there: https://js13kgames.com/2022/games/infernal-throne
There was also some kind of java4k thing back in the day. Notch did a bunch of those:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100218133531/http://www.mojang...
Interesting insight into Notch's creativity before Minecraft was released, although a public alpha was released beforehand in 2009.
Kind of a shame that Java applet support was removed from browsers. Obviously the security problems made it too much work to maintain.
Some previous discussions:
2024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40558607
2021 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28520221
Related this week:
CSSQuake
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48608223
the Wolfenstein3D-like game in only a few hundred bytes WITH SOUND might be even more impressive even though it's like exploits all the way down
oddly can't find a link to it at the moment
Not sure if this is what you were thinking about, but .kkrieger was 96 kB and looked very impressive when it was released: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12036
well there have been micro attempts over the years
like this is 512 bytes (half a K)
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=83795
but the one I am thinking about had textured walls and sound
it used some insane levels of packing and exploits to render
Does it work on mobile?
Game video: https://youtu.be/tX8340GV87U?t=30
Very nice! Lack of pathfinding hardly made itself visible, in intense combat I at first assumed they did have some kind of pathfinding
I definitely recommend checking out all top games from this competition over the years. Quite a few gems.
Imagine, if someone would start making operating system and its applications that are just kilobytes in size. RAM price crysis would resolve in a day.
Those exist e.g. https://menuetos.net/ it’s just most people dont use them.
I agree with you though. If Apple open sourced os9, and the community could get it to run on modern hardware, I would run it.
Interesting project. A floppy sized OS seems about right, excluding some sort of driver tree.
OS preferences seem to boil down to "have someone else made this app work on the system" which makes it very much a network effect issue.
And if you use such an OS to boot a bloated Firefox, then there is hardly any point.
This is really remarkable, and frankly more playable than a number of niche ports like this that I've tried - great work!
Very epic stuff
very cool, try it with other games
Great job!
I read the whole writeup assuming it was LLM assisted, then when I got to the bottom I realized it's from 2021 and was blown away.
Does this make you question the accuracy of your personal LLM detector?
Blown away as in he had LLMs before anybody else did?