Ask HN: How to stop spreading misinformation on private messaging apps
One of the major reasons for spreading misinformation especially in non English speaking communities is through WhatsApp, WeChat, telegram and other regional messaging apps. Considering that they are end to end encrypted and also WeChat which only allows embedded view of external sources in their application, this makes it really hard to solve this without compromising privacy.
So, what are the best possible measures we can take to mitigate the problem a bit or even solve some low hanging fruits?
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You just don’t. Misinformation can only be stopped by individuals and you can’t stop it without infringing privacy or engaging in censorship which is as bad as misinformation.
I agree with Durov’s approach.
It's pretty funny how some of your most recent previous comments on HN could easily be labelled by some as "misinformation" in today's world. Would you have wanted your suggestion that "RSI problems are not just physical but tightly coupled up with your mind" censored? (Btw, I have a book by Dr Sarno, and am pretty open-minded about his theories)
This is what I call cherry picking just to prove your point. That's a thread where people are giving suggestions on how to mitigate RSI and I gave the solution what worked for me. Didn't say anything that this is the best solution. And also you forgot about strength training and climbing which I mentioned there.
I am always up for constructive criticism but this is not cool
Exactly!
It was kind of a demonstration.
I appointed myself “moderator” for a moment and highlighted one thing you said and decided to suggest you that you could spread misinformation.
Not cool indeed!
What if you got shadow banned instead or your account banned for this misinformation?
its not enough that all social media is controlled and sanitized, you want even to control private conversations as well? get a grip.
You completely misread the context. Again, please read the post. If it's not for privacy, there's no need to ask for suggestions. We can just implement 1984. But that's not the society I wanna live in. Nor you want to.
The mere fact that you and me are having this discussion on this platform has a premise that we are educated to a certain level who can tell whats bullshit or not but almost 50% of the population in this world cannot. Again, I am not saying we should play the smart guy role for them but looking for ways to mitigate the amount of misinformation that's being spread.
Education. People must be educated and trained in critical thinking, so they can spot the bullshit spread by other persons and also by the government (like the "weapons of mass destruction").
Dude you're insane
Did you watch John Oliver's latest episode on misinformation [0]? They put out a website, available in multiple languages, of things to spread:
https://bettermorningmessages.com/
Education via spreading funny memes that say not to spread stuff that is un-trusted is probably the best idea that doesn't involve the owners of those apps changing something.
In my opinion, a change on all social media platforms that would be awesome is a process to get an account listed as a "trusted source" and only trusted sources can have content go viral/global. Simple enforcement is if a trusted source gets reported to be spreading BS, they get banned. Everything else can only be 2 degrees of separation from the poster, which is friend of a friend basically. It won't eliminate the problem but it could possibly cut down on the misinformation spreading.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jtFqWq5iU
Just so I understand, you’re asking how to censor peoples private conversations?
This seems like a new level of assuming you’re smarter than other people and should be able to tell them what to think.
Why stop there bro. We need to stop the spread of misinformation in private thoughts.
When I see a funny but most times subtle anti-vacc, climate crisis denial or right wing meme on the family chat I always speak up.
Most times on memes the premis is already wrong to make a point. It's important to check and to show people with less media skills how to check innocent funny political memes for truth. Most of them just lie or misinterpret statistics or USA any other rethoric trick to brainwash meme by meme by meme.
It's important to make it visible for our Facebook scrolling boomer parents for example, to make them think before they share.
Interesting is how deep the misinformation is already rooted sometimes. In one case I lost a friend who believed in the Corvid is a Hoax lie, because I repedatly tried to convince us in our sport chat. It's sad. Intentional misinformation should be a crime. This has nothing to do with free speech.
Accept that it is about emotions, not facts! A lot in life is.